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subject: "Tie breaker procedure"

B + Playoffs

Nov 05, 2010
6:50 AM

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Before anyone asks how the system works since four teams will be tied after the Novas enter their score. Here is the info from the League info section:

Three teams are tied for a position

scenario#1: three teams are tied for a position (there are no other teams with the same percentage), each tied team has played at least one other team they are tied with: teams are then ranked according head to head record against the field of tied teams, then (if any teams are still tied) according to point differential in the games played against the tied teams.

Example: teams A, B, C are tied in percentage, have all played each other, and . C beat A and B, B beat A but lost to C, C lost to A and B. Teams would be ranked in this order: C (2-0 vs teams tied with), B (1-1 vs teams tied with), A (0-2 vs teams tied with). In this case, the head to head records clearly rank the teams 1-3 and point differential does not come into play.

Example: teams A, B, C are tied in percentage, have all played each other. C beat A 10-7 and lost to B 13-3, B lost to A 20-0. All 3 teams are (1-1) in head to head play (still tied) so point differential IN THOSE GAMES ONLY is now applied. C won by 3 and lost by 10, so C is a (-7) net pt diff. B won by 10 and lost by 20 so B is a (-10) net pt diff. A lost by 3 and won by 20 so A is a (+17) net pt diff. The teams would be ranked in this order: A (+17), C (-7), B (-10).

Example: teams A, B, C are tied in percentage, team A has played both B and C. B has not played C.
*If A won both those games, A (2-0) is first, and then the ranking of B (0-1) and C (0-1) is based on overall point differential for the season.
*If A lost both those games, A (0-2) is third, and then the ranking of B (1-0) and C (1-0) is based on overall point differential for the season.
*If A split those games, A (1-1) is second, the team they beat (0-1) is third, the team who beat them (1-0) is first.
*A tie in any game played between the teams applies the same head to head then pt diff formula above.

scenario#2: three teams are tied for a position (there are no other teams with the same percentage) and none of the tied teams has played at least one other team they are tied with: teams are ranked according to overall point differential for the season.

scenario#3 (Here`s where we have most of the confusion): three teams are tied for a position, there are no other teams with the same percentage, only 2 of the teams have played each other. In this specific sceanrio, head to head is not used as the first tie breaker, because one teams has no head to head record. Teams are ranked first by over point differential. If two teams who have played each other get ranked in succession, THEN the head to head result could flip the positioning of those 2 teams.

Example: teams A, B, C are tied in percentage, team A beat B. C has not played A or B. By overall point differential for the season, then teams are ranked in this order: C, B, A. Because A beat B head to head, and is ranked directly behind B, A and B would switch positions.

Example: teams A, B, C are tied in percentage, team A beat B. C has not played A or B. By overall point differential for the season, then teams are ranked in this order: B, C, A. Even though A beat B head to head, they cannot leap frog C to then move ahead of B because C has a better overall point differential for the season than A.

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Four or more teams tied - use the same procedure/formulas as in three teams tied.

TOM
league commissioner

Nov 05, 2010
6:58 AM


;	Thanks for posting this, I was about to myself. The appropriate section is this: scenario#1: three teams are tied for a position (there are no other teams with the same percentage), each tied team has played at least one other team they are tied with: teams are then ranked according head to head record against the field of tied teams, then (if any teams are still tied) according to point differential in the games played against the tied teams.

Thanks

Nov 05, 2010
8:56 AM


;	Tryin to figure the seeding between Greyhounds, Hitmen, G- unit is a mess. Greyhounds beat Hitmen , but lost to G- unit,Hitmen beat G- Unit , but lost big to Greyhounds, G- unit beat greyhounds , but lost to Hitmen. Time to flip a coin !!!! LOL

wow

Nov 05, 2010
8:59 AM


;	get a life and let Tom figure that sh*t out

TOM
league commissioner

Nov 05, 2010
9:25 AM


;	5) Gunit (2-1) L Hitmen -6, W GreyHnd +7, W NOVAs +7 ... +8 6) Hitmen (2-1) W G-Unit +6, L GreyHnd -24, W NOVAs +10 ... -8 7) GreyHnd (1-2) W Hitmen +24, L G-Unit -7, L NOVAs -10 ... +7 8) NOVAs (1-2) L Hitmen -10, L G-Unit -7, W GreyHnd +10 ... -7

So...

Nov 05, 2010
9:29 AM


;	This is what I am getting. Hitmen and Gunit are 2-1 vs these 4 teams. CCR and Greyhounds are 1-2. So hitmen beat Gunit and CCR beat Greyhounds. It should be.. 5. Hitmen 6. G-Unit 7. CCR Novas 8. Greyhounds BUT - I`m always wrong.

Like

Nov 05, 2010
9:38 AM


;	I said. I am always wrong.

TOM
league commissioner

Nov 05, 2010
9:43 AM


;	teams are then ranked according head to head record against the field of tied teams, this is against the field, not any one particular opponent. then (if any teams are still tied) according to point differential in the games played against the tied teams.

Wow

Nov 05, 2010
9:57 AM


;	This is NFL stuff !!!! Good job Tom. Now give your brain a rest ! LOL

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