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May 13, 2010
11:38 PM

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05/13 : Greyhounds tie Collision 10-10

The tie puts Greyhounds at 4-3-1, and Collision at 4-2-2 for the season.

These teams had played each other twice prior to this matchup. Their most recent matchup was Nov 04 2009, 21:10, a Fairfax County Flag Football League "A" playoff game which Collision won 17-0.

Next up for Greyhounds is The Union (7-2). That game is scheduled for May 17 2010, 21:00 at Lake Fairfax#4.

Collision will face off against Novacaine (7-2) on May 17 2010, 22:00 at Lake Fairfax#1.




Bun B

registered poster


May 13, 2010
11:44 PM
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Bun B


lake ffx rf

May 14, 2010
1:53 AM
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Hounds had no answer for the spread. Collision had no answer for Smooth20. Decent game. 7pt/Union was better.

?

May 14, 2010
7:25 AM
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What does the tie do to the playoff picture

^

May 14, 2010
7:40 AM
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they both are gonna B in B playoffs........TELL EM BUN BIZZLE!

Playoff Guru

May 14, 2010
8:36 AM
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This means the Greyhounds vs. CCR game next week determines who gets that 4th seed. The Greyhounds vs. Union game is essentially meaningless for the hounds.



Well

May 14, 2010
8:56 AM
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What about Collision? If they beat Novacaine next week they will be in the playoffs cuz they got the tie breaker, but only if Chaos beats The Magnums. If Novacaine, Chaos, and Collision all wind up 7-3 (Collision would be 6-2-2, same things as 7-3)then Collision is the odd man out.

Yes

May 14, 2010
8:59 AM
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BUT, what happens if Chaos beats Magnums and Novacaine beats Collision? Then you got 4 teams in The West sitting at 8-2. Who would win the division, whoever had the best point differential?

Playoff Guru

May 14, 2010
9:08 AM
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For the West this tie makes things very interesting. Collision can actually control their own destiny as far as making the playoffs.

Collision - has remaining games vs Novacaine and Ether. Win both games and they are in the A Playoffs. If they tie Novacaine and beat Ether then they need Union or Chaos to lose for Collision to make A Playoffs.

Novacaine - one game remaining vs Collision. Win or a tie vs Collision and they are in the A Playoffs. If they lose they can still sneak into the A Playoffs with a chaos loss. If Novacaine wins, chaos beats mags, and Union loses then Novacaine gets a 3 way tie with mags and chaos and could get the #1 seed based off point differential. If Novacaine, Union, and Chaos beat mags then we have a 4way tie and Novacaine gets the 4th seed (1-2 vs tied teams). If Novacaine wins, chaos and union lose then Novacaine gets the #2 seed.

Chaos - beat the Mags and they`re in the A playoffs. If they win and Novacaine loses or ties then Chaos gets the #1 seed. If a 4 way tie exists then Chaos gets the #1 seed. If a 3 way tie exists then Chaos could get the #1 seed based off of point differential. If Chaos loses then they need Collision to lose or Union to lose to make the A Playoffs.

Union - win and they are in the A Playoffs. Only way they can miss A Playoffs is if they lose and Collision/Novacaine is a tie or if they lose, novacaine loses, and chaos loses (3 way tie for the last 2 spots and would lose out on point differential).

The West picture should be pretty clear after Monday night. Should be a great final week to the season.

Playoff Guru

May 14, 2010
9:15 AM
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Re: Will:

If there is a 4 way tie (Mags, Chaos, Novacaine, Union all at 8-2) then tie breaker goes by record against teams that are tied. In this scenario you have:

Chaos 2-1 - wins vs Union and Mags and loss to Novacaine.

Union 2-1 - wins vs Mags and Novacaine

Mags 1-2 - win vs Novacaine and losses to Union and Chaos.

Novacaine - 1-2 - win vs Chaos and losses to Mags and Union.

Chaos gets the #1 seed because their record vs tied teams is the same as Union but they beat Union.



Dumbells
Novacaine
coach


May 14, 2010
9:16 AM
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Wow...that`s some crazy @$$ $hit!

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
9:22 AM
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Chaos gets the #1 seed because their record vs tied teams is the same as Union but they beat Union.

Not quite.

Would come down to the net PD in the 3 games.



CodyW
7 PT Spread
coach


May 14, 2010
9:24 AM
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Tom, do you care or have time to give us a brief break down of the what ifs?

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
9:25 AM
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Tom, do you care or have time to give us a brief break down of the what ifs?


Both, but give me a few minutes.

Dumbells
Novacaine
coach


May 14, 2010
9:37 AM
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haha come on Will not yet... I still got the weekend in front of me. I might have to leak some Chaos secrets to Rob and company over at The Magnums!

Not even sure what those secrets would be...haha.

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
9:49 AM
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Collision must win both remaining games to break the top 4, otherwise the current top 4 all clinch "A".

If Collision wins both remaining games (Novacaine, Ether):
1)they will finish 6-2-2 which is the equivalent of 7-3, they will at least be tied with one other 7-3 team (Novacaine).
2a) if tied only with Novacaine (no one else is 7-3), Collision is the #4, Novacaine goes to "B".
2b) if tied with Novacaine and Organizaed Chaos at 7-3: (1) Chaos is #3, (2) if Collision beat Novacaine by 3 or more they are #4 - otherwise Novacaine is #4.
2c) if tied with Novacaine and Union at 7-3: (1) Collision is #3 (if they beat Novacaine by more than 4 otherwise Union), (2) Union or Collision is #4, Novacaine is out.
2d) if tied with Novacaine, Organized Chaos and Union at 7-3: (1) Collision is #2, (2) Chaos is #3, (3) Union is #4, Novacaine is out.

I`ll post the scenarios for division winner next.

I`m confused

May 14, 2010
9:57 AM
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how is 6-2-2 equivalent to 7-3??

Cruz
Showtime


May 14, 2010
9:58 AM
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2c) if tied with Novacaine and Union at 7-3: (1) Collision is #3, (2) NOvacaine is #4, Union is out.

Tom - wouldn`t we have the head to head over novacaines? Or is that because of point diff?

Chaos_6

May 14, 2010
10:04 AM
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While Tom is surely the authority on these scenarios in FCFFL, traditionally in sports a win out weighs two ties; the first standings tiebreaker of teams with identical win% is number of wins.

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
10:05 AM
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2 teams can win the West Division title.

First, the clear cut scenarios:

1) Magnums: win or tie vs Organized Chaos despite whatever else happens = division title.

2) Organized Chaos: win vs Magnums + loss or tie by Novacaine = division title.

Union cannot win the division. They would need Chaos to beat Magnums, which would draw them into a point diff tie-breaker they cannot win (see post below).

Novacaine cannot win the division. They would lose a 3 tie break (with Magnums and Chaos) due to pt diff in those games (-6), and they would lose a 4 way tie tie-break due to head to heade record within the group (1-2).


I`ll post the more complicated scenarios next.

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
10:08 AM
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how is 6-2-2 equivalent to 7-3??

identical %

2c) if tied with Novacaine and Union at 7-3: (1) Collision is #3, (2) NOvacaine is #4, Union is out.

I had that switched, should be Union in, Novacaine out.



TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
10:12 AM
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So TOM, is it possible for Chaos to be BUN B`d ?
I don`t see how but I might be missing something


Its not possible - I need to mark your team as clinched.

Chaos

May 14, 2010
10:22 AM
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Smiles have simutaniously popped up all over the DMV on Chaos players faces

Cruz
Showtime


May 14, 2010
10:31 AM
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3) Union: win vs Greyhounds + Organized Chaos win vs Magnums + Novacaine win vs Collision = division title.

Not sure if we can win the division title since Chaos would have the head to head over us.. correct?

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
10:38 AM
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West Division title (other outcomes)

4 teams tied at 8-2 (Magnums, Union, Novacaine, Organized Chaos).

The assumptions here are that Chaos beat Magnums, Union and Novacaine won their final games. If this happens, Chaos and Union would both be (2-1) within the grouping, but Chaos would win on point differential due to the 28-3 win.
Union would take the #2 seed. Magnums and Novacaine would be 3 & 4. If Chaos beats Magnums by 14 or more, Novacaine is #3 - otherwise Magnums are #3.

3 teams tied at 8-2 (Magnums, Organized Chaos, Novacaine).

The assumptions here are that Chaos beat Magnums, Novacaine won their final game, Union lost or tied thier final game. If this happens, we`ll have all 3 teams (1-1) against each other so it goes to point differential in the games between these teams.
Novacaine would be (-6). Chaos would need to beat Magnums by at least 5 to win the division, otherwise Magnums win it. If Chaos beats Magnums by 14 or more, Novacaine is #2 and Magnums are #3.

3 teams tied at 8-2 (Magnums, Organized Chaos, Union).

The assumptions here are that Chaos beat Magnums, Union won their final game, Novacaine lost or tied thier final game. If this happens, we`ll have all 3 teams (1-1) against each other so it goes to point differential in the games between these teams,
Chaos would be #1, Magnums #2 (unless they lose by 19 or more), Union #3.


TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
10:43 AM
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3) Union: win vs Greyhounds + Organized Chaos win vs Magnums + Novacaine win vs Collision = division title.

Not sure if we can win the division title since Chaos would have the head to head over us.. correct?


true...need to edit that

West Player

May 14, 2010
10:46 AM
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Tom how will the playoff match look ( meaning East teams vs West teams in 1st & 2nd round)

TOM
league commissioner


May 14, 2010
10:52 AM
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Tom how will the playoff match look ( meaning East teams vs West teams in 1st & 2nd round)


I posted that earlier, its:

top bracket:
1E v 4W
2W v 3E

bottom bracket
1W v 4E
2E v 3W

I have a idea

May 14, 2010
11:15 AM
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I think the Mags should take the 4th place and play against Triple Crown. Because both arecgood and It should be a good match :0)
...come on do it for us Mags

^

May 14, 2010
11:16 AM
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*are good*

^^

May 14, 2010
11:44 AM
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TC, 7pt Spread, Rejects, Mags, and Chaos are the ONLY teams that win this thing!!

^^^

May 14, 2010
11:44 AM
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Yeah cause the Sharks/Kerns arent playing

^^

May 14, 2010
11:59 AM
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I agree. From the poster who put up Triple Crowns win`s this season, only 7pt`s scored the most on them, but what I`m trying to say is teams like Magnums, Chaos, and Rejects (who also left TC to the least points) can play the same level as Triple Crown. Many could say Triple Crown had it a easy season, but they played who they had to play and did a damn good job at it. I`m not saying Novacaine doesn`t have a shot but they lost Cube who is one of their best player or players in the league.

TC

May 14, 2010
12:03 PM
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welcomes the sharks back

Hi :)

May 14, 2010
12:09 PM
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Why didn`t the Sharks keep their name last Fall and went with Kerns?

Because

May 14, 2010
12:19 PM
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they had a losing record vs TC; cant wait till the fall

Wolves

May 14, 2010
12:21 PM
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and Rejects traditionally always played TC close. They are VERY familiar with each other as opponents. now that Wolves are out, might be a potential #1TC vs #3Rejects matchup in the 2nd round of playoffs.

SLASH
Pain


May 14, 2010
12:41 PM
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Because we had a different sponsor last fall hence the name change. In the past Kerns used to be 1 team and Sharks another. We combined 2 years ago. Trust me didnt change our name cause we had a losing record vs TC.

Rob
Magnums
coach



May 14, 2010
1:53 PM
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re: Dumbells - secrets like getting a pick 6 on the final play?? haha.



Dumbells
Novacaine
coach


May 14, 2010
2:12 PM
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haha there ya go...if they are trying to run the clock down...watch the swing pass...

Chaos_6

May 14, 2010
2:16 PM
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Good one ;)

Dumbells
Novacaine
coach


May 14, 2010
2:40 PM
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haha all in fun of course.

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