Fairfax County Flag Football League

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poll question: "Who did you vote for today?"

annon

Nov 04, 2008
4:52 PM

;	Who did you vote for today?

vote

Nov 04, 2008
6:28 PM


;	The best candidate.We need to get out of this crappy recession.

Nobody

Nov 04, 2008
7:37 PM


;	I voted for nobody, there all corrupted and neither will make a difference. They just lie to you and tell you there gonna do this and that..then nothing from either.

visitor

Nov 04, 2008
8:39 PM


;	U think Obama is best for that ur a an idiot

Who in the hell

Nov 04, 2008
9:54 PM


;	keeps voting for the special interest groups and big business lobbyiests? They have been in office for the last 30 years if not longer...

way to go

Nov 05, 2008
1:59 AM


;	Nice work morons now we have a terrorist running our country, "we`re going to have an international crisis, mark my words". I`m disgusted, however I hope he does a good job for our sake.

uh ohh

Nov 05, 2008
8:30 AM


;	sucks that i live in an area with a lot of idiots and dip ****s. we now have a islamic muslim running our country... did you morons already forget about 9-11? damn, i have to move to canada now... no more flag football for me.. :(

re

Nov 05, 2008
8:32 AM


;	I hope that 250 number doesnt drop any lower.. else im paying more taxes to the poor and lazy... yes im bitter... I feel sorry for the novacaines and medical doctors out there...

wtf

Nov 05, 2008
8:38 AM


;	I dont get it.. is this a liberal flag football league? I posted something a few weeks ago in support for mccain and it got pulled.... now a mohamad obama poll comes up and it gets to stay?

Seriously

Nov 05, 2008
9:45 AM


;	This is rediculous. I thought people in this league had a little more sense than that.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
10:43 AM


;	YOU REDNECKS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO TALK POLITICS ON THE MSG BOARD. OOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! Suck my balls you Republican douchebags!

to WOW

Nov 05, 2008
10:56 AM


;	Redneck? No. I come from a lower class family, and have worked myself up to where I am today as an owner of my own computer software business. Unfortunately, WOW, I won`t be able to give people like you jobs, or hire new employees, because of the increased tax hikes on my business and all small businesses alike. And if you already have a job (which I doubt), you probably won`t be seeing any raises anytime soon. And for what? A small percentage tax break that only goes to "middle class" workers who can`t make enough money? Stop watching CNN and think things through. Unless your just a typical liberal who just wants something for nothing, and begs the government to fix all of their problems.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
11:20 AM


;	I was mostly referring to the people ignorant enough to call Obama a terrorist. Don`t lecture me bro. BTW I do have a job for a very large and successful corporation. Why the hell else would I be awake now and on my computer? Maybe you should think things through. Maybe other people that post here could use a job from you, but I`m good. I`m sorry your boy got worked at the polls. That just proves that people like you and the rest of these ignorant fools are now the minority in this country. Start acting accordingly. Stop trying to lecture people. Go run your company and get off the flag football message board you gigantic douche.

to WOW

Nov 05, 2008
11:42 AM


;	Give me one good reason why you voted for Obama that will help YOU personally.

...

Nov 05, 2008
12:05 PM


;	"ask not what the country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." i don`t care if he`s borderline socialist. the country is in a huge mess, and there has got to be some civic responsibility, otherwise this country is never going to get out of this mess.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
12:06 PM


;	1 We aren`t going to bomb Iran and start WWIII 2 My parents will actually benefit from social security and be able to retire at a respectable age 3 My sister-in-law will make a higher salary as a teacher 4 Our school systems will no longer be neglected and every child will get a fair chance, not just the rich ones 5 The US will now be seen as a leader in the ever-so-prevalent era of globalization, considering we finally have a thoughtful, composed, and bilateral leader. 6 Drill baby Drill is a joke 7 Sarah Palin will not be second in line to run our country (Thank you! There is a God) 8 We can begin to weed out the ugly, deep-seated elements of racism and hatred that have plagued our country (especially in states like Virginia) for way too long now and have never been confronted due to the fact that America has always been run by OLD, RICH, WHITE men, who slash whatever throats are necessary to achieve their own close-minded agenda. 9 Oh, yeah...I get a $500 tax break See, man, that`s exactly what is wrong with people like you. You only look out for yourselves. I`m more worried about our country as a whole than I am worried about getting a raise this year. OPEN UP YOUR EYES. What happens to OTHERS affects US ALL, personally. Get over yourself. It`s a big world out there and I hope that one day you`ll be able to see it.

damn

Nov 05, 2008
12:08 PM


;	It looks like someone just got Pwn3d by WOW

to ...

Nov 05, 2008
12:24 PM


;	Actually the quote is " Ask now what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." I hate people who reference a stat or quote and get it wrong.

to to .....

Nov 05, 2008
12:25 PM


;	that was a joke right? because you definitely typed now and not....not

rerere

Nov 05, 2008
12:28 PM


;	I dont want a raise... I just want to titer toter and stay under the limit. hahahaha but i do need to find a broke, unemployed wife... God (Mohamad) forbid I find a working professional who makes her own money. Then I will have issues...

to WOW

Nov 05, 2008
12:28 PM


;	"1 We aren`t going to bomb Iran and start WWIII"- We weren`t going to bomb Iran anyway, and now our country is at greater risk by having an inexperienced "leader" who seems to believe to world is a peacful place. "There`s going to be an international crisis, I GUARANTEE IT" remember? "2 My parents will actually benefit from social security and be able to retire at a respectable age"- How old are you? You think 4-8 years is going to give them THAT much money from social security to retire any sooner than they would have? "3 My sister-in-law will make a higher salary as a teacher" seems like youre stretching for reasons here pulling your sister-in-law into it. "4 Our school systems will no longer be neglected and every child will get a fair chance, not just the rich ones"- no, every child won`t get a fair chance, that`s an empty promise and I`d like to know how he plans on giving EVERY child a chance. "5 The US will now be seen as a leader in the ever-so-prevalent era of globalization, considering we finally have a thoughtful, composed, and bilateral leader." HOW THE ** DO YOU KNOW? What has he ever done? Who has he ever led? Reasons 6-8... Fair enough "9 Oh, yeah...I get a $500 tax break"- Until you get a promotion or try to start your own business one day. Than you get **ed. I hope Obama does a good job, honestly. He is the Pres, nothing can be done. I`m not saying McCain wouldve been great. But don`t praise this guy like that. He has a WHOLE LOT to prove.

rere

Nov 05, 2008
12:34 PM


;	i didnt get a 500 dollar break... how much money do I have to give up? and i didnt get the relief tax either... at least we are safer now from the muslim world.. they wont attack another muslim leader/nation. hahahahahah ok i went over board on that one.. but it was kinda funny...

rererere

Nov 05, 2008
12:39 PM


;	sorry my left wing brothers.. i didnt get to vote yesterday.. i was at the polls when 3 large black panther men ripped my mccain pin from my shirt and forced me back into my car... next election I wont be sporting any pins or t-shirts... ok that was funny right? seriously, I do hope obama bin laden does a great job and keep us all safe. I do hope the economy picks up and FRE and FNM jumps to at least $10/share(got in at 72 cents)... :P

rere

Nov 05, 2008
12:43 PM


;	my other left...

sarah palin

Nov 05, 2008
12:51 PM


;	is SMOKIN`HOT!!!!!

u rite

Nov 05, 2008
1:22 PM


;	u rite u rite shes a VPILF

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
1:27 PM


;	You are persistent, sir. I`ll give you that. My response: 1 McCain sung a song about bombing Iran during an interview with Larry King. That right there is exactly the kind of arrogant war-mongering that got us into this Iraq mess in the first place. The very fact that he was comfortable enough to sing about making a huge mistake like that tells me that he obviously does not possess the mental capacity to realize the repercussions of following the type of reckless foreign policy that has wilted international respect and trust towards our nation. 2 I`m not saying that given two terms, Obama will make my parents rich when they retire. But at least he has displayed the willingness to analyze the way our country treats our seniors (which is dreadful compared to most other sovereign nations) and put emphasis on the fact that this is a problem that must be addressed and cannot be ignored. The social security system is obviously in dire need of reform and John McCain displayed no intent, vocally, or through his policies, to address the situation accordingly. 3/4 I`m stretching for reasons by pulling her into this? Once again, I look out for other people. What happens to them affects me, directly or indirectly. You honestly thought you could discount my point by basically saying that me wanting someone I care about to be able to make more money is not a good reason to vote? I think that is a great reason to vote, and if you disagree, then you`re just as self-centered and close minded as I`m trying not to presume. To move onto 4, Obama has clearly stated his position on school reform and, compared to McCain`s proposed policies (which were vague and insufficient, at best), Barack has an agenda to lessen the quality of education disparity that was only worsened by Bush`s "no child left behind". You`re argument is weak. You could argue that all of his promises are empty 70 days before he even gets into the White House. 5 Call it intuition. Call it a hunch. Call it wishful thinking. I don`t really care what you call it. I believe that Obama is the most intellectual and open-minded leader that we can appoint at this time. And I believe these qualities are exactly what we need to address the problems with our foreign policy. Look where all of our `experience` has gotten us in the middle east. I don`t care if Obama doesn`t have experience in buddying up with Saudi princes so we can get table scraps and .003% discounts on barrels of oil. Our middle east policy is a joke and I`m glad we have someone in office that wants to change it. 9 When I do start a business some day I will be proud and take solace in the fact that marginal amount of profit that I am not making is helping those who are not successful enough to start a business. BTW Obama does plan on giving tax breaks to companies and corporations that create jobs in the US. Why does no one ever talk about that? One last thing: i didn`t get any of that from CNN. Maybe you should stop watching Fox News.

hey rerere

Nov 05, 2008
1:34 PM


;	can you tell me why you think obama is muslim and try not to sound like a grizzly-dipping moron?

???

Nov 05, 2008
1:42 PM


;	his name he changed it from barry to barrack it slipped on one of his interviews he vissited syria and the middle east after columbia with his fellow classmates and roommates (where did he get the money to travel the world) Has harvard and columbia become that affordable? middle east is jumping for joy now that he has been elected. I think I would have rather seen hillary in office.. :o

to WOW

Nov 05, 2008
1:44 PM


;	HA I don`t watch Fox News buddy they are actually turning pretty left wing on us too. Well you have your reasons and I have mine. I guess this all started because you called people "redneck, republican ducebags" or something, which I don`t agree with because theyre are plenty of good republicans left. I also don`t beleive in "spreading the wealth" i think that is a sure way to stall economic growth because you are giving people money instead of giving them incentive to go out and earn it. Now not everyone has that opportunity, and that`s why some taxes are necessary, so we can find some common ground there. One more point I will make, is that any half-qualified Democrat that ran for President would have won because of the mistakes by Bush. However, there are plenty of dumb ass Republicans and plenty of dumb ass Democrats that vote for all the wrong reasons. I just worry that this election there were more dumb ass Democrats voting than there were civilized ones like yourself my friend. I certainly did not vote for Obama, but hopefully he will do as good of a job as you say he will. No point of extending this classic Conservative/Liberal political arguement that could go on forever. But good "debate" I guess, you did make me think of some things I hadn`t before.

rere

Nov 05, 2008
1:48 PM


;	clap clap

Jay Z

Nov 05, 2008
2:04 PM


;	Did anyone see all the idiots throwing up the Rockafella sign after Obama won? What did he get signed to the Roc or something? Stupid ass people, that worries me.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
2:04 PM


;	for president!!

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
2:11 PM


;	i enjoyed the debate as well. You`re a gentleman and a scholar. Can you please tell the rest of these idiots that Obama is neither a terrorist or a muslim? Back to rerere... So, let me get this straight. You think obama is muslim because he changed his name to Barack, from Barry. That would be the first i have heard of this so maybe I could learn something if I came to your trailer one day and watched whatever it is you are watching that gives you these insider details. This brings me to your next point, which i plan on debasing with the quickness. He `vissited` (as you so eloquently put it) Syria And The Middle East. (I didn`t think it was possible to visit syria without being in the middle east. Can you scan and email the map you have in your back pocket.) I have visited Canada and the Dominican Republic before. Does that make me Canadian or Dominicano? I don`t think so, but now that you`ve mentioned it, I have been blurting out phrases in Spanish and saying "eh" a lot since I`ve `vissited` those countries. Onto your next point... where did he get the money to travel the world? I`ll give you some credit here... you, at least, were correct about Harvard and Columbia being expensive. But let me break it down for you real quick: When you go to college, there are programs called "Study Abroad", which sometimes the same price or a little more expensive than what you are already paying in tuition. Reputable schools, especially Harvard and Columbia, offer many opportunities for their students to travel to every corner of the Earth. Not to mention Obama was at the TOP of his class at every school he ever attended. When you excel in scholastic efforts, as Obama clearly did, you can travel pretty much anywhere you want through the university. See, the idea is to give students a more well-rounded, worldly view of things, so that they can make the most out of their education and represent their Alma Mater properly. What is your theory here, anyway? that since obama is a terrorist, Al Qaeda paid for a trip for him and his classmates to come hang out?

rere

Nov 05, 2008
2:37 PM


;	From Dreams of My Father: `I ceased to advertise my mother`s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.` From Dreams of My Father : `I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother`s race.` From Dreams of My Father:`There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.` From Dreams of My Father: `It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.` From Dreams of My Father:`I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn`t speak to my own. It was into my father`s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I`d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.` And FINALLY the Most Damning one of ALL of them!!! From Audacity of Hope:`I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.`

rere

Nov 05, 2008
2:39 PM


;	a little short story for you WOW... This isnt true but it could very well be... Someone forwarded this tome and I thought it was nicely written.. Its a little long but since you probably have as much time as I do, it shouldnt be a problem for you. =========================================================== CHANGE WE BELIEVED IN I fell for it. I admit it. I fell for the whole thing. I just never thought it would come back to bite me personally. Being born the last year of that alleged conservative paradise, the Reagan administration, I guess I never paid much attention to politics until George W’s second term. I was in high school debate and we had to keep up with what was happening around the world more than most kids our age. I thought W was just short of Adolf Hitler as far as leaders went. He and Cheney and their oil buddies had invaded Iraq to make themselves richer, and he lied about Iraq having nuclear weapons, and he covered the whole thing up, and he got thousands of Americans and countless Iraqis killed. I hoped the next administration would indict them all, but that didn’t happen. I guess my sentiments about George were stronger than most my age. A lot of us felt pretty strongly, but most of us didn’t actually devote hundreds of hours to ensuring George was replaced with someone entirely new. That someone was Barack Obama. In 2008 I was a college senior at the University of Oregon, majoring in history and, for a while at least, girls. Until one corralled me and got me to fall head over heels for her. My searching days were over. She—Rachel is her name—and I met Barack Obama personally when he came through Eugene and had an impromptu town hall meeting at Ducks’ Dream Pizza by campus. We just happened to be next door at the ice cream place when someone ran in yelling, “Barack Obama is at Duck’s Dream!” We slipped inside the back door and made our way to within three tables of him. He sat there, having pizza (vegetarian—I loved it!) and chatting with a bunch of us students, asking us about our dreams, telling us about his vision for the country. When he stood up, ready to go, he had to go to the bathroom (you never get those details on MSNBC), and on his way to the back he walked right up to us. I just reflexively put out my hand and said something really dumb—I think it was “Good to meet you, Mr. President.” He laughed and said, “Better hold off on that a few months.” He shook Rachel’s hand, and then he went to the bathroom. They cleared the way for him to get back through, so we didn’t get that close to him again, but that was enough. I went to Duck’s Dream planning to vote for Obama. I came out dedicated to getting him elected. What excited me about him, you ask? After eight years of Bush, I wanted something entirely different. I had had it with the way things worked in Washington—the endless bickering, the political games, the special interests, the valuing of personal careers and wealth more than the good of the people. Obama was beyond all that. By himself, he couldn’t wave a wand and make it all different. I knew that. But with the people, especially young people, behind him, he could set a new tone for America, take us past the morass we were in, and lead us not only toward a better country, but a better world. I wanted economic policies that would no longer benefit just the rich. I wanted all Americans to have access to health care. I wanted us to move toward energy independence with renewable, non-polluting energy sources and to do our substantial share toward ending global warming. I wanted us to get out of Iraq—not a precipitous immediate pullout, but a pretty quick phased withdrawal from a place we never should have been in the first place. What appealed most was the prospect of my generation being the one to heal the racial divide that had crippled this country for so long. That divide was not part of my generation; we accepted each other regardless of race. We wanted a president who would reflect that and who would move us once and for all beyond all the racial tensions. Needless to say, I was thrilled when Obama won. And not just on election night. The first six months of the Obama presidency, I was amazed at what he and the Democratic Congress were able to accomplish. They really did pass universal medical coverage, a minor miracle. It wasn’t universal care, like the British system, but it was universal access to insurance, which was great. They passed sweeping tax reforms. The middle class tax cut didn’t materialize—the deficit was too big to justify tax cuts—but they did substantially increase taxes, both income and payroll, on those making over $250,000, as well as raising corporate and capital gains taxes. Obama also signed something Bush never would have, the cap and trade legislation that allocated carbon emissions among companies and industries to alleviate global warming. As icing on the cake, two Supreme Court nominees announced their retirement after Obama’s inauguration. His two replacement nominees, both liberals, flew through the Senate. After all the partisan attacks against him during the election, Obama had been vindicated. He really had brought change to Washington. Gridlock had ended. There were some negatives, I admit. Congress passed and Obama signed the Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA), which turned out was one of his campaign promises. The law nullified all state restrictions on abortions that the Supreme Court had OK’d: third trimester restrictions, parental notification laws, etc. I guess this wasn’t a surprise. After all, Obama had stood alone in the Illinois Senate arguing against legislation that mandated medical care for those few babies who survived abortions. I have always been pro-choice, but I had qualms about FOCA. Mandating that all abortions were legal, even at eight and half months, was further than I was willing to go. I also thought Obama went too far in some government programs. Did we really need nationwide, federally funded preschool? The federal government doesn’t even pay for regular school; localities do. Why was I sending tax dollars to Washington for pre-school? And the spending worried me. Thanks to Bush’s spending, and then the 2008 economic bailout, Obama inherited an annual federal deficit of over $750 billion. The programs he got Congress to pass added $800 billion a year. Who, I wondered, would end up paying for all of this? I graduated in May of Obama’s first year, but I couldn’t find a job since the economy still hadn’t climbed out of the Bush recession. I could have gone into teaching, I suppose, but that wasn’t me. I decided to stay at U of O and get an MBA. I know, it would have been a sellout if I had just been after the money. But I figured there were lots of worthy nonprofits that needed to be managed well, too. Maybe it influenced my decision a little that Rachel had decided to get a master’s, too, in environmental management. We both finished in 2011. Unfortunately, I still couldn’t find a job. Unlike two years before, though, and thanks to the finance courses I took, I now understood why the country, two years later, was still economically anemic. Raising personal income and payroll taxes on the $250,000-plus crowd had really socked it to small businesses, which generate most new jobs. Their taxes were now over 60%. A lot of them didn’t have big enough profit margins to pay extra taxes, so they laid off an employee or two. Those that didn’t lay off often decided not to expand. What was the point of risking expansion when the government was going to take over 60 cents of every extra dollar, anyway? As for big corporations, I didn’t realize that the U.S. corporate tax rate was already second highest in the world before Obama raised it, and that Obama had raised the capital gains tax from 15% to 25% at a time when the rest of the world either had none or were lowering theirs. The result: more corporations moving overseas, where their tax rates were lower, and less investment capital flowing into the U.S., since overseas investors didn’t have to pay our high capital gains tax on investments elsewhere. That meant less business expansion here, and fewer jobs, for me and everyone else. I eventually did find one, although I’m not sure it was worth getting an MBA for. There was at least one part of the economy that was growing, however. Rachel got a job with a non-partisan environmental group whose main activity was monitoring the effects of the anti-global warming cap and trade legislation. Between us, we made enough to buy a house—not our dream house, but not a total fixer-upper. The interest rate was lousy, since interest rates (and inflation) had crept up during Obama’s entire first term—largely due to excess government spending. But that wasn’t all Obama’s fault. Bush had done his share of spending, too Once we had our own house, we discovered that energy costs—heating, in this case—had gone through the roof. In addition to costing jobs, the global warming cap and trade legislation had been predicated to raise energy costs by over 40%, and that was coming to pass. Unfortunately, as Rachel eventually discovered in her work, it didn’t do much to help global warming. But it made us feel like we were doing something at the time. One thing that consistently pleased us during Obama’s first term was the much higher regard the world seemed to have for the United States. That was reflected in public opinion polls. The downside was that things didn’t go very well on the world stage. Two weeks before the election, Joe Biden had promised that some nation would manufacture an international crisis to test Obama. That nation turned out to be China, which decided it was time to retake Taiwan. Despite our treaty obligations to Taiwan, we stayed out of that bloodbath. I felt terrible for the Taiwanese, though. Shortly thereafter, Russia got into the act, gobbling up several of its former Soviet Republics, just as it had invaded Georgia in 2008. I have to say, I disagreed with how the Obama administration handled all of this. They seemed to think that if they talked with the Russians enough, the Russians would behave. But that never happened. I suppose that mindset was evident during the campaign, too, when Obama said he would meet with any world leader without preconditions. Perhaps the problem wasn’t Obama so much as his appointees at the State Department. I guess deep down I knew he would appoint people who didn’t really believe America had a special role in the world, or who thought America was a destructive force in the world. He had hung around those types his whole life. I just didn’t think through what it would mean to people elsewhere to not have America standing up for them a little more. As it turned out, lots of people died, and lots more lost their freedom. As for us personally, things didn’t go so well for a couple of years there. In 2013 our city government seized our house to make way for a new strip shopping center. How could they do that in America, you say? Turned out the liberal wing of the Supreme Court, plus one moderate, had said the government could in 2005. The Obama Court reaffirmed that by a 6-3 vote. I always thought being liberal meant standing up for the little guy. We got a new house, but the government didn’t compensate us fairly for our old one, and we missed our old neighborhood. Rachel’s younger brother, who worked in construction, moved in with us for seven months. The Obama administration had passed a very open-door illegal immigration bill that gave amnesty to everyone who was here and, essentially, welcomed those who weren’t. The additional influx of immigrants killed wages in his industry, and he couldn’t make it on his own for a while. The next year my mom died. I thought we’d get a pretty sizable inheritance from her, since she and dad had built up a nice retirement nest egg and had seen their three bedroom house which they bought in L.A. in the 60s increase in value twenty-fold. As it turned out, though, when the Bush tax cuts expired in 2010, the 55% death tax rate kicked back in. So the government got half of what my parents had saved. I never really thought of them as rich. Then Rachel had a medical condition that, as it turned out, the government insurance program refused to cover. And I thought the insurance companies used to be hard to deal with. How government acts really does affect our lives, as it turns out. Still, it might have been worth it all if my biggest hope had come to pass. But for me, the primary disappointment of the Obama administration has been the whole post-partisan, uniter, reformer image that Obama portrayed during the campaign. None of that has come to fruition. I guess that was to be expected. As I later figured out, nothing in Obama’s record—as opposed to his rhetoric—showed him to be a uniter or reformer. He had the lost liberal voting record in the U.S. Senate and rarely reached across the political aisle to compromise or unite. In Illinois, he had the opportunity multiple times to stand up to the corrupt Chicago political machine and support true reform politicians. He always chose not to rock the boat and sided with the machine. He got elected to the Illinois Senate in the first place by underhandedly getting his Democratic opponent (and political mentor) kicked off the ballot. Most of all, in retrospect, Obama had no record of standing up to the interest groups that the Democrats favored. Rather than reforming things, the Obama presidency simply turned into a federal feeding trough for the likes of the trial lawyers and the teachers unions, whose ranks swelled due to the huge federal pre-school and day care program. I would say, “Why weren’t we told these things beforehand?” We were, apparently. But I didn’t want to listen. I bought into the rhetoric instead. I suppose I learned the hard way that a candidate can say most anything. What matters most is what he has done. Obama stayed true to himself. His policies, programs, and appointments reflected what he had done as a U.S. Senator and a Chicago politician. We can’t say we didn’t know.

re

Nov 05, 2008
2:45 PM


;	anyway, its over I hope u are right and I am wrong. Just buy me a beer down the road if he is in fact a muslim or has ties deal?

Whoa whoa whoa to WOW

Nov 05, 2008
2:46 PM


;	Having a `Republican` mindset and growing up in southwestern Virginia - I take offense to the name calling. Not all Republicans think Obama is a terrorist, contrary to what some may post here. I also take offense to this quote from you: "That just proves that people like you and the rest of these ignorant fools are now the minority in this country. Start acting accordingly. Stop trying to lecture people. Go run your company and get off the flag football message board you gigantic douche." Really? Really? Just how should the ‘minority’ now act? Wasn’t Our country founded by a ‘minority’ voice? Aren’t groups like say….ummmm….the ACLU rooted in speaking up and making sure the ‘minority’ voice and rights are heard? Now that the ‘Left’ is now in control, you feel a position to lecture the ‘minority’ to act accordingly all the while calling us names…..but what’s great about this country is that we all have the right to be heard, guaranteed in our Constitution, a right to free speech, a right to debate our views…even on a friggin flag football website….the name calling and demanding the ‘minority’ right to act accordingly paints you in same light as those you are trying to discredit. Obama has a hell of a challenge in front of him and for ALL of our sakes I wish him well, but I will always want my voice to be heard no matter how ‘minority’ it may become and hope that the new ‘majority’ won’t infringe on my rights and try to silence it. Peace.

no more politics

Nov 05, 2008
2:56 PM


;	can we just go back to talking **** to each other? haha, that was more fun.

Not so Wowed by the hype

Nov 05, 2008
2:58 PM


;	Wow, I must not have been paying attention during the election, so you can you clarify, without resorting to name calling,how 1) Obama being elected means teachers will get a raise? I may be wrong, but I did not think the Federal Government normally was in charge of teachers salaries. I thought that normally feel under state and local governments. 2) Obama will save Social Security? I may have missed this in the debates, but I never once heard him provide any specifics.

rere

Nov 05, 2008
3:00 PM


;	I promise I will vote for Obama for the following term if he can do any one of the following. 1. cut my taxes (if I stay under the 250k range) 2. keep americans home and abroad safe 3. get the economy rolling

to no more politics

Nov 05, 2008
3:03 PM


;	u dont have to click on the thread/link if you dont want to read about it. go to the novacaines/signal/ref bashing thread if that pleases you more.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
3:24 PM


;	okay man, I have no qualms with conservatives. I am glad you guys have a voice and will always have a voice, because we need to hear it and we need to remember we are all on the same boat if we ever want to succeed. What i do have a problem with, is how the Republican party scares people into believing these things. I`m not a Democrat. I just support Barack. And I`m pretty sure that the only party that can be blamed for the spreading of rumors about Obama being a Muslim, or a terrorist, is the Republican Party. It reminds me of McCarthyism. Unfortunately, there are people, like the ones that post on this board, that believe these rumors, deeply. And when I see the effect it has on people and the magnitude of hate that it nurtures, it makes me sick to my stomach and scared for our country. And at this point I am forced to call it what it is: EVIL. Now I now that these things go both ways, but you cannot honestly say that the Republican campaign run against Barack Obama wasn`t, at its roots, dangerous, misleading, uber-negative, manipulative, and divisive, and, ultimately, evil. Are these things good for our country? How could you possibly say yes? I respect everyone`s beliefs to a point where they are dangerous and you seem like you are clear-minded about this. I apologize for the name calling, but I think it`s a lot less serious of a problem for me to call someone these names than it is for millions of Americans to believe that our President elect is a terrorist. Also, Barack is a Christian. What can`t people seem to understand about this? He doesn`t have 10 wives and wear a turban to work. He doesn`t go to a mosque. And even if he did, then whats the big problem? He has one wife. His family loves America as much as me and you. His kids play soccer. He only owns ONE house. He started from nothing and only met his father once. Yet, somehow, your party found a way to portray him as a dangerous Islamic Extremist. And the American people rejected this. We`re sick of that crap. Give the man some respect for God`s sake. He`s accomplished more in life than all us of in this league, collectively. The RNC should be ASHAMED for what they said about Barack Obama. ASHAMED. It was god-awful. All the man ever said was that he wanted to help us change. Is that really that scary? Once again, I apologize for name calling, but people need to think about the ignorant things they say. I know I will think about what I have said.

WOW for not so wowed

Nov 05, 2008
3:39 PM


;	1. It`s called "education reform", which we have neglected to sufficiently address for a long time now. You may not realize it, but outside of Fairfax county, there are some horrible educational institutions all across the country with dilapidated facilities and Atlases that still display the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, and Indo-China. This needs to change. The states and localities have had a long time to snap out of it and get something done, and this just simply has not happened. So, who`s gonna reform schools? I`d say the best candidate would be the federal gov`t. I mean... if states and localities aren`t going to do it, who else can? I can`t reform our educational system. Can you? Can your Dad? Maybe, just maybe, Barack start a movement to address this. But you aren`t willing to give him a chance. Oh, wait, America is tho. We just voted him into office. Did you miss the election, too? I guess if all you did was watch the debates and all the crap on TV, you probably know next to nothing Barack`s policies. 2. Dude, read something. If you want specifics, they are out there waiting for you. They don`t have them on TV. You must actually utilize your mind to find them. Maybe check his website? That`s just off the top of my head. Also, if you look back at all of my posts, I never once wrote the word, "save". I mentioned that he plans on reforming social security. I don`t really feel like writing down his entire policy for you to read, so, sorry bud.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
3:43 PM


;	Also, you can`t trump me by posting fiction essays about a dream someone had. That`s retarded. I didn`t even read it because I`m dealing with non-fiction here. It was a good idea and I appreciate the time it took you to do that, but I`d rather see a response with at least a little relevance. I can write an essay on what I think is gonna happen but I don`t want you guys to have to read that... I`d rather you see it.

NOT SO WOWED

Nov 05, 2008
4:44 PM


;	You are pretty good at dodging direct questions, making snide comments and parroting campaign sound bites but seem very short on facts. Sounds like you would make a great politician! You initially stated your "sister-in-law would make a higher salary" because Obama was elected, but you can not seem to provide anything to support this claim. Instead, you launch into a diatribe about education reform, again with no info about how the plan for how this was going to be done, as if my questioning your initial statement means I do not believe that we need this reform. To top it off you assume I am not willing to give "him a chance" because I had the nerve to ask how Obama was going to raise teachers` salaries. As for Social Security, your lack of an answer confirms you have no idea what Obama plans to do Instead of illuminating us with your vast knowledge of the issue, you quibble over "save" vs. "reform". Although you obviously have great passion for Obama, it is clear that outside of the media talking points it is you who knows next to nothing about Obama` s polices.

education

Nov 05, 2008
4:56 PM


;	Barack Obama will reform No Child Left Behind: Obama and Biden believe teachers should not be forced to spend the academic year preparing students to fill in bubbles on standardized tests and he will improve the assessments used to track student progress to measure readiness for college. Invest in early childhood education: The Obama-Biden comprehensive "Zero to Five" plan will provide critical support to young children and their parents. And they will help states move toward voluntary, universal pre-school. Make college affordable to all Americans: Obama and Biden will create a new American Opportunity Tax Credit worth $4,000 in exchange for community service. It will cover two-thirds the cost of tuition at the average public college or university and make community college tuition completely free for most students.

social security

Nov 05, 2008
4:58 PM


;	Barack Obama will protect Social Security: Obama and Biden are committed to ensuring Social Security is solvent and viable for the American people, now and in the future. They are strongly opposed to privatizing Social Security. Provide cheaper prescription drugs: Obama and Biden will allow the federal government to negotiate for lower drug prices for the Medicare program. They also support allowing seniors to import safe prescription drugs from overseas. Protect and strengthen Medicare: Obama and Biden are committed to the long-term strength of the Medicare program. They will reduce waste in the Medicare system and will tackle fundamental healthcare reform.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
4:59 PM


;	You`re telling me I`m dodging questions when not a single person has answered any of the questions I`ve asked.

WOW

Nov 05, 2008
5:15 PM


;	We won... America won... We`re in this together... Our differences are what makes this country great. Let`s just try to be reasonable. I respect all of the LOGICAL arguments I`ve dealt with today and I hope everything works out well. I wish I could have elaborated more on a few things but I`m kinda at work right now. Besides, I think I made a decent argument, especially compared to most of these other guys. It`s hard for me to articulate the policies of a President who is not even in office yet. I don`t think anyone can do that with much success. Anyways, I`m glad I lured at least a few thinkers out to voice their opinions and I hope we can get through these trying times. I have a good feeling about the path we are on... And so should you. God Bless America God Bless Flag Football God Bless Tom Cube Boy is gay

uhhh

Nov 05, 2008
9:44 PM


;	Hey WOW. Get a life. Look how much **** you`ve wrote on this messageboard TODAY. And your talking about politics? Looks like your job can`t be too serious. You should just send this thread to CNN as your resume I think they`ll hire you. FIND A MORE CHALLENGING JOB LOSER.

MORE MONEY FOR WELFARE

Nov 06, 2008
8:17 AM


;	this savage racist will take more of your hard earned money and give it to section 8,mothers with 8 babies,criminals,more public housing complexes,HE DOES NOT EVEN PUT HIS HAND ON HIS HEART DURING THE PLEDGE!,he is for America?you just got snowballed

Cube Boy

Nov 06, 2008
8:34 AM


;	You suck at life WOW

damn

Nov 06, 2008
10:30 AM


;	People in VA are so lame

rere

Nov 06, 2008
10:41 AM


;	I didnt even notice that during the pledge... Muslim I tell you.... Its all good, as long as he doesnt take any of my hard earn cash away from me... I could care less who he prays to...

to damn

Nov 06, 2008
10:44 AM


;	Thank you captain obvious, yes people in the VA are lame, they got those injuries from fighting for our country.....oh...wait did you mean people in Virginia? I guess you are right, but I have been around the block and there are lame people all over this great country, especially the 50000 or so Steelers fans that showed up to the Skins game......f`ers!

what??

Nov 06, 2008
10:51 AM


;	what? you mean I have to go over to iraq to fight in a war? I know I signed up to be a part of this great countries military, but nobody said anything about real fighting... with real guns... please Obama, send me home to my family... :o

To WOW

Nov 06, 2008
12:12 PM


;	You wanna see Obama`s education style check into Detroit`s system.

Seriously

Nov 06, 2008
3:53 PM


;	For all of you who are posting about RACE, you have to be serious! This country will FOREVER have racism in it! I voted for Obama, not because he was black, he could had been purple or pink (wanted to pick a light color for some of you; don`t want you to picture me as racist) but if you can tell me that the past 8 years our country has thrived and propered then you`re out of your mind! GM is in a lot of the ways like Bush, it`s def time for change! America is home of the brave, not strictly based on religious beliefs. I want a president who was based on change, a breath of fresh air, to me; it was clear that BO was the best choice! He`ll make mistakes and he`ll do certain things great, but whoever would had won last night is F`d, because of the state Bush has put us in now! Hope you all are bigger than some of these people posting and aren`t truly serious! I wish you all nothing but the best and you can catch me Wednesday night A championship; hopefully catching TD`s!

ME

Nov 06, 2008
3:55 PM


;	Sorry, meant Tuesday night A championship!

man

Nov 06, 2008
4:51 PM


;	you not catching nothing tuesday night you probably play for those over rated Sharks who got lucky to beat TC the first time this time it will be different... trust me

T²

Nov 06, 2008
7:06 PM


;	I SURE DO! And you`re right we`re over rated and I`m Overhyped but I`m sure you`re mad because you`re one of many teams that has caught an L to our OVER RATED squad! So it`s all good, are you even still playing?!? Just guessing if we`re over rated then i bet a lot of teams wouldn`t mind being that with 3 straight A titles! Still, best wishes to everyone and good luck! Oh yeah OBAMA `08!!

RELIGOUS BELEIFS?

Nov 06, 2008
8:15 PM


;	ANOTHER IGNORANT FOLLOWER WITH NO BRAINS,THIS GUY IS KNOWN TO DO NOTHING BUT HATE WHITE PEOPLE.WHICH REALLY IS NOT A BAD THING BUT DO YOU REALLY WANT THIS TERRORIST WHO WILL NOT SALUTE THE AMERICAN FLAG THE PROPER WAY TO REPRESENT THE USA?YOU ARE GOING TO GET CHANGE FOR THE WORSE TRUST ME,JUST LIKE MARION BARRY GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO

Geez

Nov 06, 2008
10:47 PM


;	Can`t we just talk about how much we think the Banditos are weenies or how SMASHMOUTH is a bunch of redneck losers or something, I`m all politiced out. glad the elections are over. Didn`t go the way I hoped but it is what it is and I hope that Obama lives up to his promises.

for real

Nov 07, 2008
1:14 PM


;	I guess if I`m a ignorant follower of obama then ur an idiot who thinks GWB did a great job in office too! Everyone who comes w/ validity to there reasons for not liking obama that`s cool; but all the other crazy stuff b/c race or religion is retarded! Obama hates white people which is pretty ignorant b/c he`s HALF WHITE! Let`s b for real people!

W

Nov 07, 2008
5:03 PM


;	I don`t care what anyone says George W. Bush was our nations greatest President. He stood up to attacks against us and kept us safe. He really does care about our country and is more passionate about it than any other pres. The economy downturn is not his fault, it`s the rest of the world. Trust me.

visitor

Nov 07, 2008
5:21 PM


;	I dont know about the greatest he did inherit some bull from the Clinton admin then he`s in office for about 21 months and 9 11 hapens which I believe was planned mostly during the Clinton era maybe while he was gettin his thing polished by Monica. Obama definitely has his hands full so now its his turn. We`ll see how he does.

BUSH

Nov 07, 2008
6:00 PM


;	Ask those people who had to deal with Hurrican Katrina how GREAT of a president Bush was?!? He did move a lot faster when talking about war then he did in trying to help those victims of Katrina! All and all, every president will do great things as well as make mistakes hopefully Obama will learn from mistakes of the past and get us going back on the right track.

To Seriously

Nov 07, 2008
6:06 PM


;	The past 8 years the country hsan`t "propered" as you put it however it has prostered. Bush inherited a recession and immediately thereafter the economy was almost shut down due to the attack on September 11th. During the next 5 years there were 7 million jobs created from tax cuts with a hight growth rate for the economy. The past two years the democrats have controlled the house and the bottom dropped out of the economy. If you don`t know the facts you should not simply repeat what you have been told because it sounds good. George Bush II didn`t get us in this war there were articles of surrender from the earlier invasion and Saddam didn`t follow those requirements. Here is a simple example of not researching the facts. If you were asked who the first President of the US was you, and almost everyone else, would say George Washington however you would not be correct. Google John Hansen and you will find the truth. Now i understand he was the first president under the articles of confederation but the fact is he was the first US president. Please do some research. Here is the url to the site. http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html

re

Nov 07, 2008
6:14 PM


;	BOOO on the democrats that voted for O bama.. Liberal Homos

HURRICANE KATRINA WAS NOT THE GOVERNMENTS FAULT,TH

Nov 08, 2008
7:17 AM


;	did you see all those savages ?mugging and killing each other?looting?stealing?your right those are the exact people that Obamma will have running this country.The flood was designed by the Mayor to get all those welfare people into other states,now look how much better New Orleans is now that he got rid of all those savages draining the system

The problem

Nov 08, 2008
4:44 PM


;	That`s the problem with Liberals. Anything that goes wrong, it`s obviously the government and the republican presidents fault. No matter what. All they want is the government to do everything for them, it`s called freedom people, we have it, and do what you can with it, that`s the basis of our country. Don`t turn to Uncle Sam to solve all your problems.

92Locs

Nov 08, 2008
6:37 PM


;	This website has turned into wikipedia of information. Now I did not know the following individuals were all residents of New Orleans and Katrina victims: Valerie Jarrett Rahm Emanuel Joe Biden Richard Lugar Claire McCaskill John Podesta Mitch McConnell Oh and how could I forget Warren Buffet. You learn something new every day.

to re

Nov 08, 2008
7:12 PM


;	You are correct; hurrican katrina was in no way the governments fault; the poor way it was handled was w/ FEMA & getting help to those individuals who needed assistance! That was the problem! But don`t matter election is over & america has made a decision!

to to re

Nov 08, 2008
9:55 PM


;	FEMA is NOT allowed to go to a city or state unless and until they are invited (neither by the way is the National Guard). This has been the rule of engagement since it was formed. The local and state government of New Orleans blew this and it was in no way Bush`s, the federal government`s, or FEMA`s fault? The Red Cross was there because they do not have to wait for an invitation nor does the press who did nothing to help). Again I ask you to do your research first and don`t just repeat what you hear. You write well and are clearly bright so please do a little research.

The MULATO

Nov 12, 2008
7:44 AM


;	has a very long and impossible list to fill for his supporters. People will be pissed and he will become a lame duck in 2 years and be out in 4 years when the US of A goes down the ****tter. 1.) Gitmo will stay open longer then he promised to close. 2.) The Military will be in Iraq longer than he promised. 3.) Russia, N. Korea, Iran & maybe Venezuela will test him, he will look cowardly by wanting to sit down and talk. 4.) He will not be able to fix the economy as he promised as he does not know what to do. Hell, Paulson does not know what to do. However, he promised to fix it. 5.) Race relations in the US of A will get worse based on him steppin over Black America and him taking care of his white liberal friends needs or charities. 6.) He will raise taxes on everyone and this will be his "kiss of death". As you dig deeper in peoples pockets they get pissed and will kick you out. 7.) We will be attacked again and he would have intelligence predicting it and he does nothing to stop it because the threat level is only 85%. 8.) In 2012 the country will be so upset and move so far to the right that it will be 50 years before a demo gets elected again.

Cube Boy

Nov 12, 2008
8:26 AM


;	This is not a messageboard for politics... Shut up

Hey Square Boyeeee

Nov 12, 2008
10:20 AM


;	Check out the name of this post!!! "Who did you vote for today" suggests political posts are requested.

Yo Cubeee

Nov 12, 2008
2:35 PM


;	I wanna change my vote to beat you up now! Prepare your cute butt for a whoopin:)

Cube Boy

Nov 12, 2008
2:40 PM


;	I knew the Cube love wouldn`t last long

Cube Boy

Nov 12, 2008
4:52 PM


;	is a dumb queeer little beotch! He sucks and swallows.

Particle Man

Nov 12, 2008
4:58 PM


;	Particle man, particle man Doing the things a particle can What`s he like? It`s not important Particle man Is he a dot, or is he a speck? When he`s underwater does he get wet? Or does the water get him instead? Nobody knows, Particle man Triangle man, Triangle man Triangle man hates particle man They have a fight, Triangle wins Triangle man Universe man, Universe man Size of the entire universe man Usually kind to smaller man Universe man He`s got a watch with a minute hand, Millenium hand and an eon hand When they meet it`s a happy land Powerful man, universe man Person man, person man Hit on the head with a frying pan Lives his life in a garbage can Person man Is he depressed or is he a mess? Does he feel totally worthless? Who came up with person man? Degraded man, person man Triangle man, triangle man Triangle man hates person man They have a fight, triangle wins Triangle man

To above comment about Cube boy

Nov 12, 2008
4:59 PM


;	You are a *. You obviously either do not know who Cube boy is or how badly he would destroy you on the flag football field. Or you are a hater who has suffered the repercussions of Cube boy in the past. Either way, it makes you look pathetic, even more pathetic because you would never reveal who you are. You say ** becaus eyou know no one will find out its you. Get a life man.

To Particle Man

Nov 12, 2008
5:00 PM


;	That **** is awesome bro keep it up. It seems simple but really it is poetic and deep. Good stuff.

idiots

Nov 13, 2008
11:32 AM


;	McCain looks like a F*ing retard and Obama is stupid as f* and a terrorist......so i would rather vote for my crap in the toliet...unflushed....

Cube Boy

Nov 13, 2008
3:51 PM


;	Cube Boy would destroy triangle man, person man, powerful man, universe man, and particle man.

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option	votes
Obama	69	75%
McCain	19	20%
Chuck Baldwin	1	1%
Bob Barr	0	0%
Cynthia McKinney	1	1%
Ralph Nader	2	2%